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They've Got Moxy!
An Interview with Moxy Früvous
By Matthew S. Robinson
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Named for near-famous inventor Gilbert Früvous and a beverage of questionable taste, Canadian group Moxy Früvous has gone from busking on the streets of Toronto to selling-out auditoriums and singing to astronauts. As they complete their first live album, they look forward to sharing their insightful harmonies at the 1998 World Cup.

I recently had a chance to talk to the guys before they took the stage to headline the 1998 Winter Folk Festival in Boston. I found them not only to be funny, but deftly observant and brilliantly conscious as well.

[Matthew] You guys have been together for some time now! How did you first find each other and how have you held the edge of musical sanity for so long?

[Dave] "The edge?" We're holding the front line of musical sanity! (Pause) We met each other in high school back in the late 80's.

[Jian] We really met each other in a bakery. And then we found out that we were in the same high school. The four of us -- completely individually -- on a Sunday afternoon, we were all at "Buns Meister" Bakery in Ontario buying bagels- Well, they didn't have bagels back then -- this is the late 80's -- but they had Kaisers.

[Murray] But they punched holes in the middle!

[Jian] And actually the Kaisers seemed to have some relevance to the Buns Meister. But we were all- I was buying Kaisers for my mother-

[Mike] Nice!

[Jian] and we just happened to meet-up, got talking and then we found-out we all went to the same high school, and then we were on the same theater department together-

[Matthew] Big high school!

[Dave] It was! There was at least the four of us there.

[Matthew] But you were in the same department in the same high school and you didn't even meet there.

[Mike] Well, we were the kind of guys who, when we were at school, we were "willed to task" -- we were focused on our task so much, we didn't notice the comings and goings of people. But in the casual, laissez-faire, you know, have-a-chat-have-a-bun atmosphere of "Bun Meister"-

[Murray] "Buns Meister".

[Mike] (exaggerating the German) "Buunz Meister"...we were at leisure to meet, talk, greet and design a future.

[Murray] It was very much a sort-of an Atlas Shrugged/Fountainhead kind of meeting for us. You know- we were just walking through the halls of the high school and we would just sort-of see each other and know.

[Matthew] "The sign of the dollar".

[Murray] Yes.

[Jian] Well, that was when we met, but we didn't form "Moxy Früvous" until '90, when we just started going out busking on the streets. We were involved in just duos and different things. Mike and I, uh-

[Mike] Wrote musical theater.

[Jian] Yeah- wrote musical theater. Dave and Mike were in a Folk, Simon-and-Garfunkel-esque duo-

[Dave] Back when they were "hip."

[Jian] Murray and I were in a very heavy Funk band. Really Soul-Funk. And Murray and Dave exchanged glances. And so then, we decided...for get together and sing on the streets. We all played instruments, but we just wanted to sing.

[Matthew] If tonight's show doesn't go down, you want to go to Harvard Square and do some-

[Jian] Sure!

[Matthew] Would you ever like to back on the street, maybe in a town where you're not known, and see what happens? Do  you do that?

[Dave] Which member of the band are you asking?

[Matthew] : Everybody! Everybody.

[Murray] On paper, that's a nice thought! Yeah, I'd like to think that we would do that, but it's been a few years since we busked and I think,'s a different skill and also it's a different drive- it's a different enthusiasm you have to have. We've sort-of done that.

[Dave] And lots of it!

[Murray] And lots of it. We've kept our- we've kept a lot of the spirit of it on stage, I mean, like we- we mix it up with the audience and do some theatrics on stage and-

[Matthew] Pass the hat?

[Murray] Pass the hat. Yeah- the Vaudeville quality.

[Mike] The difference in the band now is that, uh- and I don't want to overstate this- is that, uh we now- each of us have in each of our bank accounts $70, whereas, when we were really good at busking, that wasn't the case- for any of us. So that - to be quite honest, that puts quite a bit of fuel into the street-side performer.

[Murray] $70. They need $70!

[Jian] By virtue of this being our career, you know, we're business partners at this point- by accident. I mean, we wouldn't necessarily pick each other if we were going into any other business.

[Dave] I'll say!

[Jian] That was a weird transition certainly at first- from "Hey, we're doing this for fun and for the love of music" to "Fun, creativity and music have nothing to do with this!"

[Matthew] What about your instrumentation? Who came in with what and what have you each picked-up along the way?

[Murray] Mike plays guitar, Jian plays drums, I play bass and Dave has learned about four instruments since we started.

[Mike] I've picked-up nothing!

[Murray] I've lost a little guitar savvy.

[Mike] I've learned to finger-pick!

[Dave] [Jian] picked-up whistle and guitar. Mike picked-up keyboard.

[Mike] I played way better piano before!

[Murray] No!

[Mike] Yeah! That's when I was taking lessons! I knew four different ostenatos- obligatos.

[Murray] But you "picked-up" the keyboard!

[Mike] Yah. Yah. It was tough.

[Jian] Murray's a much better bass player!

[Dave] Yeah!

[Murray] I learned to finger-pick as England.

[Jian] Dave played no instruments-

[Dave] Accordion and banjo are new in the band.

[Jian] Dave was a math savant.

[Dave] And look for more to come...from Dave Matheson's choir!

[Matthew] In the writing and arranging, do any of you have a "lead" role, or is it just sort-of everyone puts-in and see what happens?

[Murray] I have a "lead" role, but I choose not to use I hang-back.

[Mike] It's a writing contingent- a writing troupe (in both spellings of the word). And, as such, we all have things to say, things to write, ways to arrange and, uh...Früvous is both a mosaic and melting pot.

[Jian] Wedding the American and Canadian, um-

[Mike] Ideals.

[Jian] Yes- " ideals:" a mosaic and a melting-pot. Immigrants to the land of music, we wed the American and Canadian ideals of the melting-pot and mosaic. But usually the "lead" role is taken by the person who- I mean, ultimately, somebody brings a concept or a song- you know. Anything from 'Here's some chords and a couple of lyric ideas I have" to, uh "Here's a full-fledged song! Let's see if you guys wanna change it at all." And usually that guy gets the prerogative to- within the consensus and the democracy- to take a bit of a lead role. I mean, if it comes down to a decision that everyone can't agree on or something about, say, changing a lyric or a chord or arranging the harmony in a certain way or the song instrumentation in a certain way, the guy who brought the concept will usually take the lead role in saying "No, I don't think it should sound that way" or "I do think it should sound that way."

[Murray] It's his or her vision.

[Jian] That's right!

[Mike] Musically, we are all members of the Früvous "cabinet-" the Früvous "privy council." We have a role as "Prime Minister" or "President."

[Matthew] So how does the improvisational aspect stay involved in the process?

[Mike] Well, we uh- Well, touring is a big part of that, because you're playing show after show, night after night and it's a way to keep it fresh, you know? If we were just a band that went up and did the set-list, it would get more tiresome quicker. This way, it makes each show a different thing. Something different each show happens. And also, there's generally a stuff either right there in the room -- with, you know a crazy shirt someone in the front row is wearing (now that's a lyric!) -- or something that's happening in the town at large or the country or the Olympics-

[Jian] If something might be happening with the Mayor of the town, we like to sing about that!

[Mike] Yes! These things find themselves worked-into the stage banter, the improv.

[Jian] It's hard! Because, you know- There's something about the creativity and the chemistry of the four of us that actually leads us to create often times better pieces through improvisation than it does through a calculated attempt to put together a great song corroboration, you know? Which is very difficult- if you think about it, it's quite fucked-up because how, then do we- how do we make studio albums? And in most cases, we don't-- Most of the songs that you hear at the show are not improvised things that we just thought-up in the studio while we were all sitting there with microphones on us. The difficulty being that, often times,  during shows- and this is probably the best part of the Früvous live show- we do do musical improv. And, you know, nine-times-out-of-ten, its crap! But that one-time-out-of-ten, it's probably better than anything else we do! It's really- It's a magical- um...a flowering. [It's] an explosion of creativity that's happening at that moment with the fusion of the four of us.

[Mike] So, you go on the road- you got 100 got ten songs! Ten great songs! You've won! It's over.

[Murray] Yeah! That's an album so you can do three albums a year that way.

[Jian] The corollary -- the added problem -- is that we don't remember the stuff we improv on stage. It's gone the next moment. Which is, of course, changing with all the boot-legging going on.

[Matthew] How do you choose you subjects for your songs?

[Dave] Well, like anything you'd want to put out in terms of "art," the subject has to have a starting-point and an ending-point, so [the songs have to] have that inner conflict right in them, just like any sit-com writer [or]any book writer. You've got to have something going on and be engaging. That's what we look for. That's one of the things.

[Mike] "The Muse of Fire" is what David said.

[Matthew] People have tried to put you in a genre. I'm not even going to go there. What would you say is the- no offense!- "mental age" of your music?

[Dave] "Mental age"?

[Matthew] Who do you think "gets it" the most?

[Dave] Oh! Of the audience!

[Matthew] Yes! Who do you think you play best to?

[Jian] Really, really precocious-like-genius, 11-year-olds. Like really, really ahead-of-their-time 11-year-olds.

[Murray] Like 11-year-olds who are about to skip a grade.

[Jian] No! No! Like prodigies. Because they have the openness of the child- like a sponge that is still taking-on water-

[Dave] Like a ship that is still taking on water (Laughs)!

[Murray] As the daffodil...

[Jian] -yet who have the...sagacity-

[Dave] Ooh!

[Jian] -of an older person. And so they see what this- this Früvous....Because there's the- the surface of what we're trying to say -- which most people see and some people think they get -- and then there's a deeper- you have to scratch it away- under that- that...grade 12 art project maybe a Monet! So you scratch it away-

[Mike] A palimpsest!

[Matthew] Could you spell that please?

[Mike] Yes! "P-A-L-I-M-P-S-E-S-T."

[Jian] That's it!

[Mike] That's it.

[Jian] The 11-year-old has to be sexually precocious, too, because-

[Mike] (Alarm sound).

[Murray] Warning! Warning!

[Mike] Kennedy territory!

[Matthew] That's a good lead-in! I was just going to ask about that. You have sort-of this "knack" for commenting on your southern cousins. What do you think of what's going on in our torrid political picture?

[Dave] Which part of what's going on?

[Matthew] Oh- you know!

[Mike] The smoke-screen or the warring imperialistic state?

[Matthew] Either one. What is your comment on us?

[Dave] Leave- I think Europe is strong in this- Leave Clinton's sexuality alone. Stop talking about it!

[Mike] And, yes- he is gay! (Laugh)

[Jian] Period...Stop trying to prove Clinton isn't gay with your scandals-

[Murray] Your elaborate heterosexual cover-up.

[Jian] Right!

[Matthew] How about national health care?

[Murray] Go for it!

[Jian] Well, the Americans have clearly missed the boat on health care. Because you spend more of your GDP on health care than we do in Canada, yet you don't have universal coverage. That's an inefficient system.

[Matthew] My relatives in Canada say that it's...a farce because people who can afford it sort-of establish "country club" hospitals where they pay for the best doctors.

[Mike] Are they talking about there or here?

[Matthew] There!

[Mike] Well, there are people who can go to find that specialist that costs money and stuff, but that's not the point  at all!

[Jian] The fact of the matter is if you ever get sick with anything, you can walk into a clinic or a hospital anywhere in Canada and be treated immediately and not have to pay. And that is NOT true, as we've learned when we've gotten sick or inured or anything in America where you have to pay 160 bucks just to see a doctor- to have a doctor walk into the room and smell you as he walks past the door.

[Dave] He walks...or she.

[Jian] That's right!

[Matthew] Do you feel that you have any sort of special license to comment on things in America that maybe American bands wouldn't?

[Dave] Did you bring the license?

[Murray] I got it at the "peace bridge" at the Customs office.

[Dave] I don't think we have "special license." We enjoy freedom of speech in Canada as well and what we do have, maybe, is a different perspective. We are inundated and we are covered with American media, so we get a big whopping taste of it, but not living there, maybe that affords us a special view.

[Jian] One thing that often isn't, uh- Those who really actually are curious about or critical of, in some cases, our talk about the United States -- sometimes we criticize in our songs or we...discuss in derogatory terms what is going on -- is that that doesn't happen- We're not singing about America from the starting-point of "Canada is perfect!" We might talk about America disproportionately than we would about any other part of the world as Canadians because we're on the border of it and it's a big- it's the only world superpower and it has a lot of relevance for us as Canadians. A lot of- I mean everything- almost everything that happens in America affects us. But it doesn't mean that we're completely happy with what's going on in Canada, so, I mean, we can comment on how saddened we are by the American compulsion to go and carpet-bomb innocent people in Iraq for no- seemingly no good reason (or at least a hypocritical reason), but that doesn't mean we're not pissed-off at our own government for saying "It's okay for Americans to do that." You know?

[Matthew] I'd go into the Quebec secession thing, but I think that would get a little...involved. Is that something you guys are interested in?

[Jian] Yeah. It splits the band right in half. It gets violent. It gets nasty. There's name-calling. Mike (in odd Pirate-y French accent): Well, ya know, they came in the middle of the night. The Brits are always coming in the middle of the night! If we had been awake, it wouldn't have happened! (Laugh)

[Jian] You know, it's not as big a deal- I guess, maybe, when you're in the- you know- I think people in South Africa used to say this about Apartheid- but it's not as big a deal as it seems from outside the country. Like, I just an into a guy across the street --a fan of ours -- and he said he wanted to come up to Toronto -- there's a "Frühead" convention in Toronto -- and I said, "You should come to Toronto. It's great!" And he said, "Yeah, how is it there? Like, how is it living there these days?" And I said, "What do you mean?" And he said, "You know with all the turmoil in Quebec-"

[Matthew] So he thought it was a violent insurrection?

[Jian] Well, as if, like- Yeah! As if we it was Albania- you know? Like the country's up in arms and there's- There's really no- I mean, there's a province that is democratically...speaking like it's been neglected and....

[Mike] It's a cultural fact in Canada. And it always will be. Maybe there will be a new creation politically and maybe there won't be, but it will always be a cultural...reality north of the border! It will always be hard to deal with, but it will never be anything like Third World strife or anything like that.

[Jian] Now when it comes down to the really important hockey...nobody's going "Hey, Patrick Roy shouldn't be on the Olympic team because he's from Quebec!"

[Matthew] Moving out of politics into something a little more near and dear to your hearts, what do you think about the state of the music industry?

[Murray] Abysmal!...A-f-in-bysmal! I think radio is dead and boring. I think, creatively, there's nothing happening (especially on this side of the border)-

[Dave] Harsh words! I'm gonna' beg to differ on a couple of-

[Murray] -and I think bands are- it's a very conservative time for bands. I think no one's really taking any chances. I think they're paying it very safe and they're looking for the- you know- the one hit single that will net them a couple of million bucks so they can retire. No bands-

[Mike] YEAH!...Oh, sorry!

[Murray] -No bands are really in it for the long-term, you know, and that- there's a lot of reasons for that, but....I think there isn't a lot of-

[Dave] In the Pop?

[Murray] In the mainstream.

[Dave] Yeah- In the mainstream.. That's what the caveat is to that. I would say on the upside, the ability to disseminate what's music is ten-fold what it was ten years ago. So there's a heck-of-a-lot-more to choose from out there. And if you're a young artist, you can make a CD, if you can scrape-together a couple of thousand dollars. And that's a good thing -- the diversity and the web- the net of folk- people out there marketing themselves through small companies or what-have-you is very valuable and is going to play an increasingly larger role in terms of what we think of as, you know. "the music industry," I think. I would hope so. So that's- I'm not a radio listener, but I sure am keen on this- it's not really an "underground," but there's certainly lots of music out there!

[Jian] Yeah! I think I might have agreed with what Murray said about five years ago, but I think it's changing a lot- especially since the 80's but especially coming out of the "Alternative Rock" status quo in the first half of the '90's, you know? There actually seems to be a real opening of all that "Indie" explosion that was really kind of fake has led to some...some great stuff. I'm not sure...ten years ago we would have seen an Ani DiFranco on the cover of Rolling Stone . And I think that that's very positive for what it represents. Even on radio, the likes of Ben Folds Five are getting played. I think they're a different kind of band than would have been playing maybe perhaps the same kind of music, but would have developed in a different way- would have developed by some producer picking them and, you know, spending money on a huge budget and stuff in the 80's and the early 90's. So there's a- there are- and, I mean, with what Dave was saying of there being anything from the Internet to technology of recording. I mean, there's so many- Anyone can make a f--ckin' CD and that is positive, you know? I think, uh- There was some...The darkest thing that's happened in the last ten years is that "Alt-Rock" Nirvana scene and whatever (at least in North America) became the corporate rock of this decade. And it's still going on in Canada, you know? But there's a lot of other stuff going on too that didn't have a voice a few years ago.

[Mike] As far as musicians making musical careers -- doing it for their career -- and all the people who are in the music business on whatever level for a career, the worst thing we've encountered -- and the worst thing, I think on the planet -- is television- is video TV. It's just horrible! And I can't over-state this. For music- For musicians. Unless there was a video channel the way there are college stations- you know? Just everywhere ! And you could get tons of stuff on. But it's so narrow! It's just so incredibly- you know? And it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to get to that level of, uh- And the nicest thing is these Folk festivals we get to do because they represent such a diversity of coo stuff!

[Matthew] Why in the industry inspires you? Who do you admire?

[Murray] I think Jian mention two big ones: Ani DiFranco and Ben Folds Five -- two bands that are sort of, uh- that have come out of America to more mainstream success. I think in the mainstream, those are the two conspicuous bands that have integrity and have something to say musically. But beyond that, I think you have to look to, you know...deeper into the corners -- the nooks and crannies -- of the industry to find artists that are really doing something interesting...intelligent...challenging.

[Dave] I always thought that Loudon Wainright, for example, or Greg Brown, for example, on the Folk side of things are inspiring to me, in that they are- or Chris Smither, for example- get in the car, drive, do a gig and have a good career doing that, you know? That's not a house in Malibu by any means, but it's- it still represents a success and a life doing music. That's great!

[Mike] We have a compatriot and town, city- what is it?

[Dave] Community member!

[Mike] "Community member" who has inspired us a lot by being discovered for what he is- (Laugh)

[Mike] -a homosexual! (Laugh)

[Mike] -in a straight world! (Laugh)

[Mike] Um- His name is Ron Sexsmith and he's like this incredible songwriter and it's been something that you can almost feel in the Toronto scene a bit of inspiration from him because he came along -- this amazing songwriter -- and it's like "Wow! Aw! This is the kind of guy that ought to be discovered!" And now he has been, so that's inspiring!

[Matthew] People have tried to hook you up with every Canadian band, every Folk act, every-

[Jian] Every Pope?

[Matthew] -every "fringe" Rock act. What are your real influences? Who would you like to be linked with?

[Jian] Well realistically, we won't- we probably won't be linked with the people who are our real idols. -- like Stevie Wonder. I mean Stevie Wonder is probably...probably between the four of us the guy who gets the most air-play at our individual houses, you know? But it's going to be a long time before they go "Moxy Früvous is really the new Stevie Wonder!"

[Mike] But it'll happen! It'll just be a long time! (Laugh) You're strapped-in for the ride!

[Jian] So in the meantime, I think...I mean, you know, we're not like- Like a band like Radiohead I think is a band that I would love to-

[Mike] Be lumped-in with!

[Jian] Yeah. I mean Radiohead has the Talking Heads thing. I mean, I think the thing we're searching for is-

[Matthew] "Head" in the name!

[Jian] Yeah! What we're searching for is a career that, um...a long-term respect. Like, um- these guys are still around, you know, like say ten years from now. You know, these guys have done this for a long time and they still are into being creative. You know? They're still into doing. They're not just reproducing what they do for their niche. And certainly we're a hard band to follow- I mean not on stage, but I mean on- As a fan, I would think that we're probably not an easy band- You know, our releases are unpredictable from one to the next and you kind of have to buy us as a concept to really- And, fortunately, a lot of people seem to be doing that! So I think a long-term respect- I can't even compare us to anybody! I don't think there's anybody out there who- There's such a diversity of interests in our group and we literally don't know if our next album is going to be a Hip-Hop album or a really really Folk-Acoustic alum. So who can we lump ourselves in with?

[Matthew] Speaking about the "heads" and the band following, who came-up with the idea of the "Früheads" and the sort-of club-

[Mike] John Stevenson of Portland, Oregon....No. Sorry!

[Dave] Jian. Jian did.

[Jian] I came-up with the "Frühead" card and sort-of exploitation of these people that collect-

[Dave] The salt mines!

[Jian] -but they came-up with their "Frühead." I think people started calling themselves "Früheads" who were following us around.

[Matthew] I gotta get my card because I got benefits coming!

[Jian] It's over now!

[Mike] I don't think you do!

[Jian] Dental....It's over now, but there'll be a new "Frühead" system...a new reward system unveiled in the next couple of months for "Früheads."

[Matthew] With the new album?

[Dave] Previous to the new album.

[Murray leaves]

[Matthew] Well, I actually had a question for the four of you individually, but I guess I-

[Dave] You can do three of us.

[Jian] We can probably predict Murray's response!

[Matthew] Okay!...If I were to take each of you into a room alone- (raised eyebrows abound!) -- stay with me here!

[Mike] Oh! We're with you!

[Matthew] -what would you each tell me are the origins of the band's name.

[Mike] We'll need that room!

[Jian] We would all say the same thing. There's only one.

[Matthew] Oh, there is a story to it. It is that guy from Switzerland --Anton Früvous .

[Jian] No.

[Matthew] Oh. That's what I had read, so I went with it!

[Jian] No. Gilbert ("jill-bear") Früvous, in the famous- I guess the 1975-76 playoffs between the Buffalo Sabres and the Philadelphia Flyers -- remember the famed- I don't know if you're a hockey fan at all, but those who are, especially in the Buffalo area, will remember that the Memorial Auditorium where they were playing fogged-up . It was the famous "fog series." It was like the Stanley Cup Finals and it was getting really warm outside and they didn't have air conditioning, so they were playing in fog. And there were guys who devised the idea of skating around the ice between, like, every five minutes, they would stop the game and skate around the ice with sheets -- like two guys holding sheets -- to blow the fog out. The guy who thought of that and one of the guys holding the sheets was a guy named Gilbert Früvous.

[Mike] And his invention is called a "draps"- Let me spell this out for you: "D-R-A-P-S new word D-E B-R-U-M-E."

[Matthew] "Drop de broom." Pardon my French!

[Mike] A "fog sheet!"

[Jian] Gilbert Früvous- G-I-

[Matthew] Like "Gilbert."

[Mike] Yeah!

[Matthew] So where does the first part come from?

[Jian] What do you mean?

[Matthew] "Moxy"?

[Jian] Oh, "Moxy." I just added that. "Moxie" means gumption; balls. It used to be a soda!

[Matthew] Yeah!

[Jian] Well, actually, the soda thing- There's an actual discrepancy about where "Moxie" came from . Some people think it's an old Yiddish word or something- like "Oh! He's got Moxie!," but-

[Matthew] Like "chutzpah."

[Jian] Chutzpah- yeah! Some people claim that that's true, but that came after the drink. Because the drink was so horrible (and if you ever tasted it, it is terrible!), that if you drank it, you have guts! So that became synonymous with "Moxie."

[Mike] We were told by a wily bus- We said our name's "Früvous" when we were first approached by wily businessmen and one of them told us that, if we added "Moxie" to it, it would square our earnings exponentially. And he swore his life on it!

[Jian] We're not sure if that's true-

[Mike] He's dead now.

[Jian] -but we won't know until we drop it-

[Mike] Right! Jian -and see if our earnings are the square-root of what they were.

[Mike] But this guy -- this "wily" business guy -- is now- You can now visit his grave in Holy Cross Cemetery in Toronto.

[Matthew] So what do most of your fans- What is the strangest scenario that someone has come to you with about what they thought the source [of your name] was?

[Jian] Well, they don't come to us.

[Matthew] Well I did!

[Jian] I know, but- We know the Gilbert Früvous story. Obviously, that's where it came from, but, you know, every once in a while, we'll make-up a story just to be cads.

[Matthew] Ah! I see!

[Jian] They don't really come up to us.

[Mike] Only once or twice and they're sort-of based on the smoke-screen stories that we've let fly out there.

[Matthew] Alright! Switching channels altogether- What was it like to be chosen to provide the wake-up song for the astronauts?

[Dave] It was a thrill!

[Matthew] How did you find out?

[Dave] The morning of, I think I got a phone call. That's how I found-out myself.

[Jian] Actually, I think we found out- We later found out- We had been working on it, but we found out because it went out on the wire . People who had heard it on the news would call us and stuff.

[Mike] Very thrilling! Unfortunately, no royalty agencies exist for outer-space. It's a "freebie!" But how often does someone do something free in space? You know? Most people get millions of dollars!

[Jian] And quite frankly, when you don't get royalties, you're losing royalties! So it's actually a material loss! It's what it adds-up to. But it's a spiritual and universal gain!

[Matthew] So tell me about the upcoming live album.

[Dave] Well it's almost complete. We're mastering in a week or so and it will be out in May, we think. And its going to be a hell of a live album!

[Matthew] How does it fit into the musical plan -- you say that Moxy is a "musical package" -- How-

[Jian] It's really interesting because it may be the first album that we've ever put out that really- that you could really put on and say "This was Moxy Früvous" because it will be -- obviously, it's live -- and because it's a compilation; a- what do you call it?

[Mike] An amalgamation. A distillation...

[Jian] A culling of our different musical styles and genres and pieces. So it's a collage- a collage of what Früvous is- which is what we are, in fact, so that'll actually be quite satisfying! Whether it's the best album we've ever made or not, it certainly is the album that I think that you'll be able to say "Oh, you've never seen Moxy Früvous? Put this on and you'll get a good sense of what they are!" as opposed to [our album] "Wood," where you get a certain sense or "You Will Go To The Moon," where you get...

[Matthew] So what's the next goal for the band? What's coming up?

[Jian] Well, we're being considered for the World- you know, the World Cup. They have a big benefit- they do a benefit. The "Three Tenors" have done it in '90 and '94 and we're being considered!

[Matthew] Fantastic!

[Jian] Yeah! For the big closing Or, actually, it's a few days before the opening. It's The Gala, basically. Which is pretty amazing because we've never played in France, but they heard about our live show and, depending on what [Jose] Carreras - if they have a contract, because it has to be the Three Tenors, so-

[Mike] If Carreras says "no," then Früvous says "yes"!

[Jian] Yeah. Which would be really cool!

[Dave] It would be "The Two Tenors Plus Four"!

[Jian] Two to three billion people could be watching that.

[Mike] And they'll be able to hear our new song "Baggio Goal!"

[Matthew] Is that for real?

[Mike] It only has two lyrics. One of the lyrics is really long! "Baggio gooooooooaaaaaaallllllll! (cymbal sound) Gooooooooaaaaaaallllllll!"

[Matthew] Are we going to get that tonight?

[Mike] No. There's a lot of money riding on that.

[Matthew] Oh, I see!

[Mike] We can't just play it in Somerville!

[Matthew] I see. Okay.

[Jian] But we will be doing some interesting things tonight!

[Mike] Yes! Mix it out. Buskering it around.

[Jian] Buskering- yes.

[Dave] What was that band from M.I.T.? Something "Uncle," or whatever?

[Jian] "Honest Bob."

[Dave] "Honest Bob!"

[Jian] And the something-or-other.

[Dave] And the something-or-other. Lump us in with "Honest Bob"!

[Jian] What do you mean?

[Dave] He was asking who to lump us in with!

[Matthew] Oh, okay!

[Jian] Well, actually, "Honest Bob" will be opening the show at M.I.T. again on May 15.

[Matthew] Any parting words?

[Dave] Thanks a lot!

[Jian] And people are encouraged to come see the Früvous live experience and to visit our "Frü" website.

[Matthew] Thank you very much, Gentlemen!

[All] All: Thank you very much, Matt!

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